Join Cheryl Carreiro, and Sevasti Papakanakis, Assistant Directors, Connecticut Division of Scientific Services, as they share an overview of the Connecticut Division of Scientific Services Rapid DNA program. Obtaining leads in the initial hours of an investigation can be critical. During this session, Cheryl and Sevasti will discuss how they implemented a rapid DNA program with their law enforcement partners to transform the investigative process.
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- Hi, welcome to HIDS 2022.
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My name is Cheryl Carrero.
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I'm the Assistant Director here
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at the Connecticut Division of Scientific Services.
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- And I'm Sabi Papakanakis,
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the Assistant Director of Forensic Biology and DNA in Connecticut.
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- And we're here to show you our rapid DNA program
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that we set up here.
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We have about 100 employees here,
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some of sworn, some civilian,
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Forensic Biology and DNA is the biggest section
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in our laboratory.
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We started the rapid DNA program
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because we do have backlog cases.
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And our Director, Dr. Guy Valaro,
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wanted to do something to help the turnaround time
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to our agencies, our stakeholders.
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So in 2013, he was coming up with different types
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of technology to try to screen
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and give investigative leads to quickly.
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And when rapid DNA came out recently,
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we're not in a rusty state.
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So he decided, oh, let's try it with crime scene samples.
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And Thermo Fisher has the Intel cartridges
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for the rapid DNA system.
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And we started the program here
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and it's been such a success and so exciting.
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- Yeah, I think it's also really important to remember
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that we are the only forensic crime lab
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in the entire state.
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So all of our law enforcement agencies depend on us.
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So that's why it's really critical
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to get them timely information
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for these really big important cases.
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- Yeah, we serve over 100 agencies, local, state and federal.
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And so the lab gets a lot of cases.
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And we started making protocols.
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We started the validation of the instrument.
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It was hard to get buy-in from our laboratory staff
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just because it's new and it was outside of our accreditation.
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The program, so it was kind of a different,
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a huge change for people.
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And you know, people don't like change.
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- Yeah, it's definitely a different mindset.
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You have to think about it as,
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yes, we're trying to do this
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and trying to make it as scientific as possible
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and follow the validations and follow the standards
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and stay in line with that forensic mindset.
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But you also have to have that creative mindset
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of doing things a little bit differently
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than what you normally do.
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- Right, and it's stepping out of that comfort zone.
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And I think Sebi and I were willing to do that.
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And it's led us to, you know,
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great leads for our agencies very quickly.
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- So the program development didn't really happen overnight.
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It was a long process of setting up meetings
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with state's attorneys' offices
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and make sure everything was done legally
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and in line with, you know, Connecticut statutes.
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It dealt with a big validation.
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We had to have the hurdle of lab buy-in
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and just the logistics of how to coordinate everything.
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Cheryl does a huge portion of training
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all the law enforcement agencies.
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- The writing of the SOP is making sure
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that we had documents for Q-seeing the reagents.
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You know, having access 24/7 to the kiosk.
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You know, getting that copy of the Connecticut
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convicted offenders to go into our small pond database
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and making sure that it's updated every month.
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There's all these policies that we had to write
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if it's not written, it doesn't happen.
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So there was a lot of work done on SOPs
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on training proficiency tests for law enforcement officers
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that are trained.
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We want to make sure that they stay up with the program
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and know what they're doing.
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Chain of custody and all those things
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that you normally would do in a forensic lab
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under accreditation, we took those ideas
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and we moved them into a rapid program
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that is not under their accreditation.
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But it has the same type of rules and policies
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that we would use.
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So we have a kiosk here in Connecticut
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and the kiosk contains three different types of technology
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that officers can actually be trained and used.
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One of them is Niven, one of them is AFIS
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and then we have the rapid DNA program.
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The officers go to a scene, for instance, a homicide
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and they find blood at the point of entry
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breaking into the house or something.
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They collect samples for the lab typically,
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but we train them to take an extra swab
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for the rapid DNA.
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So they'll go ahead and package the evidence
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and get everything ready to submit to our forensic lab,
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which is the normal process.
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Then they take one swab and they bring it to the kiosk
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and they run it on the rapid DNA machine.
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If they get a full genetic profile, DNA profile,
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it will go to a small pond, which is a database
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that we use that contains a copy
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of the Connecticut Convicted Offenders.
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It's outside of CODIS, it's our state convicted offenders.
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Once they get that profile searching, there could be a hit.
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And once the hit happens, Sevi and I will go ahead
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and help them find who this person is
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that hit to this piece of evidence
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and they can use it as an investigative lead.
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- Yeah, I think it's also important to remember
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that our program is set up as a modified rapid DNA program
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where we are hands-on with the profiles.
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We are doing the review, we are analyzing
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and making sure that it's a sufficient profile to be searched.
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- Right, so we're very involved.
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We have oversight being DNA analysts.
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We can be able to possibly look at those yellow check marks
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in which I'll explain later, but at our maybe partial profiles
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and we're able to manually put them into search.
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So we're getting a lot of investigative leads from that.
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I take about five, six officers at a time to train
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and I go through explaining what the program is
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and that they will be operators.
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It's their tool to use for their investigations.
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I'm just here to help in oversight.
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We go through a PowerPoint presentation
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and I explain the whole process
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and how they collect crime scene samples suspected
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to be single source profiles.
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They then, after that presentation, they then go
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and we do a practical test, which they actually do a cigarette
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butt because there needs to be some pre-prepping
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of a cigarette butt to be used in the rapid instrument.
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So they do that, then they come back
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and we take a written test and they have to get above an 80%
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to pass and after they pass the exam, they get a certificate
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that says that they are now operators
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of the Connecticut rapid DNA program.
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- So Cheryl's been doing a great job.
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She's actually trained every single law enforcement officer
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in the state at this point, which is,
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we're up to about 160 law enforcement agents.
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- With a lot more coming.
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- Yes, it's very busy.
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There's a lot of interest in the state for it.
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- Yes.
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- It calls every day, it calls every day
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about the rapid program, local PDs, the state police,
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even the FBI, I'm trained to people in the Connecticut FBI,
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you know, unit.
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It's been really great and everybody is, you know,
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asking questions, it's very interactive
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and actually I feel like we're helping them also
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be able to think about the type of samples
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that they're taking from crime scenes.
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- Yeah.
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- I think we do see that a lot, that they're learning more
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about how to collect evidence properly
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and how to handle evidence, not that they didn't know
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beforehand, but it's just a little extra direction
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that they're getting.
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- Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.
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The officers I train are super excited to get a result
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in two and a half hours.
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Usually it takes like a week or two
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for the lab to get the result.
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It's the same technology that we use in the lab,
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except, you know, two hours and you get a result,
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that's pretty good and the enthusiasm that I see
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and the officers that I train is outstanding.
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Like it's very exciting, even, I get excited
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about it for them.
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This is a great program, a great tool
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and, you know, doing rapid DNA, I think is gonna be
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spread across the United States.
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- We've had so much excitement about the program
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that we're really looking to expand across the state.
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Right now we have one instrument at the lab,
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another instrument at the Waterbury Police Department
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and we're trying to really spread it out geographically
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to make it accessible to everyone in the state.
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- We're looking into trying to fit the rapid instrument
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into a mobile van, so it's going to be a mobile
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rapid DNA and, you know, spread instruments
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because Saby and I can log into,
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remote into any instrument in the state.
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We wanna put them, like she said, geographically,
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you know, so agencies have a quick way
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to get their results.
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- Law enforcement has been so excited about this program.
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I think one of the major differences for them
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is that now they're very hands-on
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and they get to make the decisions about what to test
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and how to test it.
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- With us just being there to help them if they need it
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but they're the operators.
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It's their test that they're doing.
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- Yeah.
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- I think they feel more involved in the forensic aspect
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and the science of it and I've gotten such positive,
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you know, vibes from them.
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- They're very excited, even during training
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and learning about the biology of things
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and how everything works.
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- Yeah, 'cause we do go over in the training,
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a quick overview of DNA and what it is
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and how the conventional testing works
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and how similar it is to the rapid DNA instrument
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and they're just interested.
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I don't think anyone's taught them that stuff before
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or they learned it back in high school
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and they don't remember it.
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And so bringing it back up in the training,
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you could just see the energy and I love it.
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I love the energy I get from all our agencies
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and, you know, calling me and saying,
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"Hey, I have this, what do you think about this sample?
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"I could bring it down."
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You know, I feel like we're on a team,
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a teamwork with the agencies.
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It's really cool.
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- It's totally a different relationship
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than what we're used to.
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- You do, yeah.
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- And just being in the lab and not seeing
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that other aspect of things.
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Because now we see the end result
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and we see that excitement that they have
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when they have the results.
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- Yep, and they're very, very grateful.
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Always thank you so much for helping.
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Even if they don't get an investigative lead,
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they're always grateful about us helping
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and having this program for them.
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- Yeah.
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I remember one of the first investigative leads
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that we got where we were able to link
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one crime scene to another and we,
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that wasn't even on our radar.
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We had no idea that we'd be doing this.
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- Right.
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- And we didn't realize how important linking
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the suspect's house to the crime scene
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and all these things or to the investigation.
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So early on, like, yeah, you can give that information
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from the lab perspective,
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but for the PDs to have that within a few hours,
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you know. - It's great, yeah.
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Recently we had, they didn't know,
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there was a homicide diet at the hospital
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and didn't know where the crime scene was.
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And so officers doing investigative work
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came upon different sites in the city
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and took some swabs.
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Turned out we found the victim's blood.
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And in two hours they were able to say,
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okay, this is the crime scene.
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Now let's set up the crime scene
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and like look for evidence to see who did this.
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And so it's not about just the copy of CODIS in the state.
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- Offender hits, it's more than that.
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And that's what's really cool.
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I mean, we've had a body ID,
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we've gotten the parents of a body
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and we were able to say yes,
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this person is indeed the child of these two people.
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- There was no other way of identifying this body.
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There were no dental records, no nothing.
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And we were able to give a result within two hours.
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- And so the family of the victim was able to know
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that indeed, unfortunately, their child passed away.
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It's usually not great fun stuff that we do,
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but we know we're making a difference
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and we're helping victims
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and we're helping the criminal justice system.
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And so that's why we do what we do.
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That's why we're in forensics overall.
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Probably the biggest challenge that we had to deal with
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would be about the whole CODIS
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and copying the state database into a small pond.
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We had to make sure that it was okay,
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that we weren't like stepping on the toes of NDIS
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or anything to do with that.
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And we found out we're okay.
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We were able to copy it.
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We had a lot of work with our IT group
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to be able to link the servers together
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and make sure that the data that's in CODIS is secure
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and the CODIS administrator involved
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to make sure that she's doing her duties.
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And so, once all those challenges,
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we face them and we got over them.
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It's working really well.
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We're able to update the convicted offenders once a month.
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We're working on getting unknown profiles from CODIS
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into a small pond so that they can get forensic
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to forensic hits sooner.
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That hasn't been done, but that's in the works.
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- I would say also that Connecticut
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has pretty strict rules and statutes
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as to who can be in the convicted database.
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- Qualifying, yeah.
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- Yeah, we have to make sure that that association
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or that investigative lead that we're giving
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is associated with a person who does have
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a qualifying offense according to the law.
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- And that qualifying offense would be convicted of a felony.
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So, when we have the name and the date of birth
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of someone that hits to a rapid evidence profile,
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we have to make sure a collect search is done
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and that they are confirmed convicted of felon.
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At that point, they're able to use that investigative lead
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for their investigations.
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But if they're not a convicted felon
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and that by mistake they're in our database,
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they have to be expunged.
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And you cannot use that name as an investigative lead
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and it's not released for them to use.
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- So, I think the concerns from the lab side
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because both of us are in the laboratory
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is using that data from CODIS and copying it
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and using as investigative leads.
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And we totally understand that because in the beginning
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we were afraid of that too.
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What rule are we breaking?
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Are we gonna lose our CODIS ability, accreditation
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and all that.
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And after collaborating with our lab staff,
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collaborating with the state's attorneys in our state
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and even talking to people in the forensic community
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and representatives from the FBI,
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we found that we could copy the Connecticut
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convicted offenders in the state
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and that we could use it for investigative leads
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and it wouldn't affect anything.
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So once we got the okay from all the different groups
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that we asked, it was very settling
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and I think that's when people started be like,
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okay, we could do this, let's do it.
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One of the first investigative leads that we got
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was about a car that basically hit police officer.
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And they were, the whole agency was very active on this
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because he almost died.
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They brought in a lot of evidence and we were getting nowhere
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and we worked on it for a day or two
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and then on the third day they came in
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and brought a piece of evidence.
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It was a face mask that was left at the scene
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and we were able to, from that profile
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that was developed and rapid,
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we were able to give the investigative lead
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that led to the arrest of that individual
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that was driving the car that hit the officer.
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Everybody was very grateful.
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It was a team effort because it was so much investigative
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work needed for that but the Rapid DNA system helped
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and it really helped solve that crime for them.
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And there was a press release and very nice,
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the chief thanked us at the division.
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It was a good feeling that we actually helped that.
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It was a very good moment.
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I think what's really important with the Rapid Program
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is that because we're getting information out to the police
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so quickly, we're preventing other crimes from happening.
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We have a homicide happen and we find the investigative lead
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for them to arrest somebody.
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It could prevent them from going out
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and shooting somebody else and killing somebody else
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or sexually assaulting someone.
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So having that information so quickly
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with the Rapid Program, that's how it makes a huge impact
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on preventing crime in the state of Connecticut.
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- Yeah, and it's also helped with the lab
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being able to focus in on certain evidence.
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We have a major crime like a homicide.
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We all know we're getting dozens and dozens of pieces
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of evidence for that.
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But if we're able to narrow down with the Rapid
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and say, okay, yes, this is going to give us a result.
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It's most likely going to give us a CODIS hit,
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prioritize that and we don't have to worry
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about the rest of it up front.
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We've also been able to eliminate certain cases
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from even coming into the lab.
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- Because they have the--
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- Either we either know we're not getting a result at all
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or they have enough information and they don't need,
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they don't want anything else.
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- Exactly, so it helps us too on the laboratory side.
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- We have future plans for our Rapid Program
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that we're constantly adding to the list of things
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we want to do.
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One of the things is getting the unknown forensic profiles
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from the state into small pond
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and just the state estus profiles, the unknown.
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So that a forensic to forensic hit can actually hit sooner
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and give investigative information much sooner
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than the regular conventional testing.
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Once that happens, I think there's going to be a lot
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of links between different agencies
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and we're able to notify the agency
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that ran the evidence plus the agency
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that it hit to with the unknown.
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We also want to look into validations of major profiles
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and mixtures so that we can be able to pull out
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a major single source profile and search that.
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We're looking at things, STR mix.
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To see if STR mix would work with the system.
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There's a lot of hurdles with that, of course,
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and we know that scientifically with the model maker
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and whatnot, but it's something that's on our list
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that we're excited to just try.
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It's been a great experience seeing what works on the system,
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what doesn't work on the system,
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and training the officers to know the difference.
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Yeah, and having that strong DNA background
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has really helped us with this
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because we're really able to think about,
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okay, this is a mixture.
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Can we now make a direct comparison to a suspect?
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Or can we, I don't want to say push the envelope
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a little bit, but we are thinking about new ways
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of how to do things.
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New ways of having new things, yes.
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And it's being from the laboratory,
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accredited laboratory coming here.
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It was definitely an eye-opening experience,
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but in the positive way.
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Thank you for listening to us and watching us
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on this first session.
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We really enjoy talking with you
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and spreading the information about our rapid program.
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In the next session, we're gonna actually go into our kiosk
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and show you how police officers use the kiosk.
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And we have some representatives from our agencies
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that use our program.
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So it should be interesting, so stay tuned.
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And we'd love to hear from you.
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If you have any questions, let us know.
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Yeah, you can Google us or email us.
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You'll find us on the website.
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